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Regular Season Game #18: New Jersey Nets at Cleveland Cavaliers

New Jersey Nets at Cleveland Cavaliers, Jan 27, 2012 6:30 PM CST


2011/2012 NBA Regular Season
VS
6-137-10
January 27, 2012
Quicken Loans Arena
7:30 PM
Radio - WTAM 1100 / TV - FSOhio HD
Probable starters
Deron Williams PG Kyrie Irving
Anthony Morrow SG Anthony Parker
DeShawn Stevenson SF Omri Casspi
Kris Humphries PF Antawn Jamison
Shawne Williams
C Anderson Varejao



Blog with the enemy at Nets Daily

Kris Humphries will play tonight. MarShon Brooks and Mehmet Okur will not.

Tristan Thompson is active after missing two games with an ankle injury.

Talk about the game here and on Twitter.

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Comments

Upset comments were turned off before I could get to that Preview thread.

I had to leave and it got out of control so I couldnt moderate it anymore

Yea, it was for the best. I just had one thing to say and I was out. No time for that stuff.

That preview thread was crazy. Some Nets fans trolling big time. I guess they just wanted to blow off some steam since they’re team is awful.

I came to FTS and saw 331 and before I even opened it I closed the browser and opened it again because I didn’t think it could be right, or that it all had to be spam somehow.

Before I opened it I thought someone might have just done 1 letter posts over and over or something crazy. Crazy it was.

So glad that the Cavs were deemed worthy enough to step on the same floor as the almighty Nets tonight

We’re done with this, right?

Pretty much.

My trolling is as done as Deron Williams’ career.

aww, it was right before I could post that if you look at percentage of season that 15 NBA games is equivalent to 41.7272727 baseball games to sample size guy

So everybody knows, the ban-hammer will be swift and powerful tonight. So no nonsense. I dont want a big trollfest.

wow conrad you did good and didn’t lose youre temper .nets fans think there something dont they?

yeah, i dont care what people on the internet are saying about me, honestly. it comes with the territory.

crazy preview thread, havent had that much fun in awhile. sadly cant watch the game, hope kyrie does his thing tonight

Hello. Can we stay within triple digits of this juggernaut? Stay tuned…

Hey guys, when the Cavs get Dwight Howard we’re gonna be awesome [Nets fan logic]

Also, I’m at work right now, so you guys are my eyes tonight. I’m following on gamecast and will watch it when i get home or tomorrow morning.

So is it a Samuels, Hollins, or Semih night if TT plays?

I’m thinking Samuels. He’s played well recently.

probably smardo, but hollins has been “productive” rexently

I hope Samuels, he’s been good

You heard Boobie. D them up.

Nice play by Kyrie. And they finally missed.

jeez, Deron didnt like my post apparently

Yeah, he has started well.

I’m taking a 25 question, 90 minute multiple choice online Econ 201 test right now. Safe to say it won’t take even a half hour.

How do we look thus far?

Nets can’t miss for some reason

Yeah, Humphries is hitting deep jumpers like he is Z.

We ran an allep-oop to Parker. And one to Casspi. Both did manage to destroy the Nets D spacing and some open outside looks.
O looks good, D is getting torched from 15 feet

Woulda been here earlier, but was in shock over an attempted lob to AP

Need more updates, people..

We’re shooting 60% and being outshot

Jamison with a funky looking layup off some nice passing

Nice ball movement on offense, getting good open looks.

AP in Israeli MJ mode

Varejao with 3 assists

Ugh, D-Will is on fire?

him and Kris Humphries, their PnR is torching us

Andy is a better PG than DW. (SSS)

It seems like he’s trying to pass more these days, sometimes gets a little wild ith it though

TT is on the floor. Good to see him back.

Nets are on fire

Not too worried, they’re about as deep as a kiddie pool

“small sample size”

Kyrie lets Farmar go by him and shoot a layup, then turns it over trying to do too much on the other end.

Kyrie's not in

Yeah, they took him out after the above sequence.

Shit, get Hollins out of there now. Two bad shots already.

Annoying turnovers are annoying

Deron Williams is trying to make me look like a moron

Hollins was being markedby Jordan Farmar in the post…

Those tactics may work.

He didn’t touch it

Ryan Hollins is awesome at fouling

Wow, we are missing some wide open 3’s.

Cavs ball, gotta be

TT can’t shoot

BREAKING NEWS

It’s because he grew up with hockey and lacrosse, he’ll come around

I tried to will in that wide open 10 footer.

Making the Nets look good is unacceptable

It really really is.

Why can’t Andy play 48 minutes a game?

He probably can

There’s no point in wrecking our players bodies this season, Byron is doing a great job with minutes

I just can’t stand Ryan Hollins. I get ill watching him play.

Think about it this way, the more PT Jamison and Hollins get the better we look come lottery time

Wrong. Jamison is better at this point than Thompson.

But he takes a lot of shots away from Kyrie who is more efficient on offense, also Jamison couldn’t defense a wet noodle

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

MONSTER SLAM.

Best one he’s had this year?

He’s had a lot

Not as good as the second one versus the Heat the other day.

Okay, Sessions has air balled two jumpers. What the hell?

I dont wanna start anything again, but to the dumbass nets fans that were trolling on our blog trashing the city of cleveland, at least our city is good enough to have a basketball team next year lol

Yeah, it was annoying. We’re moving past it though.

I was very amused

Yeah I know but it just pissed me off how they would do that when their own city can’t even support a team but I guess were done with that

Lol, the Cavs player profile for Kris Humphries :

- 2004 Big Ten player of the year
- Was married to Kim Kardashian

Pretty much all you need to know.

It’s also important to note that he was blonde in college and looks like Taylor Lautner

Let us thank the Mighty Nets for letting the Woeful Cavs back into this game. Praise be to Prokhorov.

Hahah, so we’re just gonna have a huge rivalry with the Nets for some reason now?

Haha I’m not. I don’t give a shit. I just wanted to say at least one thing about it cus I just back and went through that thread. I have a headache.

Me too. I’m over it. Haterz gonna hate

It's all your fault

Is that an assist?

That garbage under the nets basket?

nah, the Kyrie pass that bounced off Andy to a streaking Jamison

Man, where is Kyrie’s shot?

Maybe he thinks we’re playing Toronto

Did you do something to make Jobu angry?

Shit has gotten sloppy in the last few minutes and they’ve cashed in more garbage buckets.

Beasley back for the Wolves tonight as they host the Spurs. I wonder if Rubio will get to sit out at all tonight.

Did you see that? 46 minutes? Oh my

Watched it. No Barea or Ridnour. They had no choice, Ellington or Wes couldn’t play point.

When Avery Johnson complains, you think the refs think it’s just a kid in the front row

Yep, totally a foul on Andy.

A one man traveling show

These refs blow. Yes, Boobie just shot it up falling backwards, not because he was pushed over. And then that’s a foul for Deron.

It’s like every game now the Cavs outdo themselves with awful quarters/halves.

nice rescinded dime

Kyrie bails us out and gets 4 points in the final 30 seconds to pull us within 10.

Well this seems rather awful so far.

We’re probably lucky to be within 10.

If Boobie/Omri hit a few of those wide wide wide open 3’s we’re right in this as terrible as we played.

HT OT question… Brad Childress?

Seems like a decent option considering Sherman was off the board.

He looks like Gargamel

Like it a lot. Did a lot with crappy receivers in Philly

I’ll answer my own question. Boo.

Really? How come?

Watched him up close for years with the Vikings. I’ve been bombarded with texts today saying such things as “hahahahaha” and “Bad move browns… childress sucks haha.”

As a head coach, yeah. But he was a good OC in Philly.

He’s got a stench on him to me though for bungling the Vikings (see: 2009). But we’ll see.

Could have had better, could have had worse. His offenses never did much when he called plays, but he isn’t calling plays here anyways.

Pray he does for the offense what Jauron did for the defense.

kyrie needs to shoot more i think he is to passive sometimes.

His jumper isnt falling recently.

like, so far in the game?

and in the game against New York

He’s a great shooter, he needs to trust it.

game before that he was 8/10

i know but he is still the best scorer .and i just wish that he would shoot his way out his slumps more

Wow, I didn’t realize how bad that quarter was for both teams. 17 a piece? Ick.

Can I say something about how those Nets guys were ripping on how many readers they have? I’d rather have a small group that is actually knowledgeable and comments frequently. Building an actual community on a site is so much better and you get to “know” one another through threads and eventually it grows. Lets Go Tribe is an ideal example of this.

They also play in a much larger market.

Yeah, and I’m sure lots of guys go on that site, post one thing and then leave.

Yeah, but they don’t like/understand/I’mnotreallysure stats.

You mean 1/4 of a season is a small sample size?

That was hilarious to me

And they literally didnt read what I said. I never said anything about projecting into the future, just that Kyrie had out played him thus far

Well, it is. But they were failing to grasp that Conrad was just comparing Kyrie to the Nets’ Deron. So it’s small sample size v. small sample size.

Also he was talking about 15 games in the MLB’s 162 game season giving an equivalent sample size to 17 games in the NBA. That’s like saying ‘just because someone’s good in 16 NFL games doesn’t mean anything. It isn’t a big enough sample size."

Our community started a section in our arena

for all of us to cheer together. We’re a pretty solid community…and large.

Dont use subject lines

This just in: Knicks are beating the Heat

Are they really? Wow.

ESPN.

Watching NESN at work. /company man’d

They’re pretty much jacking threes, I don’t project their success lasting long

Wow we got some lucky rebounds.

D-Will has 5 turnovers, FWIW

just drained a trey

Nice move Irving

Bad call

Yeah, I think that should be our ball.

AP must be tired of living in his sister’s shadow

So…this recap is going to suucccckkkk

Unless we get nasty and buckle down.

Samuels coming in, things are looking up

Gee just threw the ball off Abraham Lincoln’s face!

I like Gee.

Me too. I hope we give him a 3 year, 9 mil deal

I like this idea.

I could definitely live with that.

Would be a nice contract for a potentially useful role player

I was jokingly calling him a Lebron killer the other day, but he definitely takes pride in his defense

Me too. I like defense when you're down 14.

preferably before

I’m calling it, we make our move now and cut it to 6 before the 4th.

All of TT’s non-dunks look really ugly

That was a pretty big yell for a pretty weak move

Ugliest…his free throws.

Ugh. 11 points is a lot to make up in a quarter

OH NO! Didn’t get it to within ten. I bet Austin Carr is very sad.

Well, looks like I’m going to have to write a recap and eat some crow. I’m sure Nets fans will be here to rub it in my face

WHo cares what they think?

I dont. It’s just annoying to moderate trolls haha

Nets are a team that are irrelevant in their own town. The Knicks being bad is a bigger story than anything the Nets do. They mortgaged a lot for DWill, and he’ll leave before they make the playoffs. They’ll be a laughingstock for a while.

So, who cares what they think

I hope we have another game against the nets this year.

we have two more game with the nets

yayyyyyy

Better hope for a heroic Kyrie-led comeback

Kyrie is much better than Deron...im sorry for doubting you...

What a joke

This is just one game, small sample size

This made my night.

Dont use subject lines.

Hope next game is

with our best players and reserve big man.

Brook Lopez
Marshon Brooks
Memet Okur

Dont use subject lines

Thank you for this list of mediocre basketball players.

Mehmet Okur is the Turkish Tornado, don’t disrespect him and his 3-pt game as a center

lol

What a hater, yeah cause this team is All NBA

Starters:
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Point guard Kyrie Irving

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Shooting guard Anthony Parker

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Small forward Omri Casspi

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Power forward Antawn Jamison

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Center Anderson Varejao

Bench:

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Guard Daniel Gibson

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Guard Ramon Sessions

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Forward Alonzo Gee

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Forward Samardo Samuels

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Center Ryan Hollins

Where did anyone say our team is All NBA? We just said yours isn’t very good either.

Somewhere along the line you Nets fans seemed to think that we all think the Cavs are the bees knees. The Cavs are made up of a roster that is seriously underwhelming. We all know this. Nobody thinks this Cavs team is good in the purest sense of the word.

We’re not very good, but we do have 7 1st round draft picks, a great rookie PG and 20 million in cap space over the next 4 years

no one wants to play in Cleavland that 20mil cap space is going to scrub players

thanks for trolling!

In reality, we want to be bad so that we get a good draft pick and build a solid core. We arent just hoping superstars will fall into our laps via free agency.

I’m still homping that, Conrad. Expecting it not so much.

but we actually got marshon brooks with the celtics 25th pick this year

so i don’t think it’s all hope…

Ok, are you Snooki or the Situation?

This is just a terrible joke.

If Byron wanted to win he’d be putting in Kyrie now (more combinations baby)

Holy shit, what an awful call.

it was pretty awful

I do agree that that was a horrible call

I hate that sometimes they call it, sometimes they dont

Dont use subject lines. How many times do I have to say this?

But

Why?

Because it’s my blog, and if you want to post on it, you’ll listen to my rules.

It’s as ugly and distracting as that Abe Lincoln neck tat your boy Stevenson rocks.

Also because it breaks up the flow of the thread.

It’s supposed to be a point of emphasis not to make that call this year, maybe Bavetta’s just too old

Kyrie can scor a lot in short periods of time, so maybe he pulls it out?

+e, you know where
HAHA DELUSIONAL

It’s wishful thinking, but based on knowledge of his game

Antawn makes me dissapoint.

Not when he gains us a 2012 first

I would love him forever and absolve him of all his sins if that happened.

I’m just happy he’s an expiring contract, I don’t expect to get much out of him via trade

When are we just going to start calling him “Antawn Jamison’s Expiring Contract?” Oh wait, that’s too long to type.

I’m cool with AJEC.

Don’t respond to this crap.

That was sexy.

Is Derron Williams gonna be in Dallas or LA next year?

Dude. We’re better than that.

It’s a serious question.

In my opinion, Dallas.

I would like to see CP3 vs D-will in LA. I would guess a lot depends on how this year plays out for everyone.

Of all the opposing fanbases that could troll here, it’s the Nets. Funny when you think about it.

Tried to warn you.

Talk smack about the Nets and this blog and your team with go south very quickly.

Dont use subject lines.

Really thought that Boobie shot was gonna go in.

Basket interference for sure

Jesus another miserable call.

Defeinitely basket interference, hope NBA apologises

Irving’s looking unstoppable

hey irving has only one turnover.

Around the Association: I’ve got two games on the tube and they’re both tight, Knicks-Heat and Wolves-Spurs. I’ll take the Heat and Wolves to win.

Heat and Spurs.

Im begging the owner of this site to please ban me forever, so I never come back here again..PLEASE?

Kyrie is so good, I can’t wait til we have a real team

This 4th quarter he is going crazy.

I told you he could score fast

He’s really bailing you out, Conrad

He really is. Totally ballin.

Also got the board and immediate TO

How much are we down?

6 with 25 seconds left… hrmmm

Is basket interference reviewable?

I think it is within the last 2 minutes, but not if it isn’t called

Think, its only 4 without that garbage call.

There were others, I think Bavetta’s getting old

OMG, this is getting good.

irving is awsome!

Kyrie has scored the last 14 Cavs points, 18 for the quarter.

Wow this is one of those losses for the Cavs

That will look close but was really a blowout domination. Good for Vegas I suppose.

So on a Friday night, for pleasure, you go to a visiting NBA blog and try to stick it to people because your team won a single digit game that means nothing in the scope of the season??

Looks like a blowout, but more like a statistical anomoly

Just had a good joke about your screen name but I’m done.

Hahahaha Andy

ANDY FOR THREEEE

Just checked the box. Our SG’s are rough as usual.

Can’t agree with anyone who wants a center over a wing if talent is similar.

Think that stands a 2, unfortunately.

Wow that’s close.

Damn 1/16 of an inch.

In the large scope, a good night. We get to see how dominating Kyrie can be in the late stages of a game and add another ball to the lottery.

Literally, the perfect scenario if you ask me.

I could use a little more TT flash, but he is coming off an injury.

good point, TT did show some flashes, but not a good game by any means, really helped stop the bleeding off that Humphries/Williams PnR though

Dude, 17 of Irving’s points were in garbage time.
Garbage time points are far from impressive.

good game fellas

Yup. Kyrie played great and more ping pong balls.

I like reading ESPN alerts that say K. Irving (CLE): 32 points, etc.

“If Byron wanted to win he’d be putting in Kyrie now (more combinations baby)”
I said this 1.5 minutes before Byron put in Kyrie, feel pretty clever

Alright, I’m getting out of work now. Will watch the game tomorrow and have a recap up.

Just watch the last 7 minutes of the 4th quarter and ignore the score, you’ll have fun

I had fun.

Nets win.
Deron double double.
Hump double double.
Cavs fans eating crow.

Did you miss the part when our 19 year old rookie went off for 32 points? Did I imagine that?

on 60% shooting, and mostly in crunch time (when D Will started missing)

Actually

when the game was over.

This game wasn’t competitive at all.

Yeah.

That was closer to garbage time than crunch time.

He scored 21 points in half a quarter. In no universe is that not impressive.

He scored 21 in seven minutes in the 4th quarter

Thanks for further specifying?

Was just being more specific, no worries

you won by 3 points with quite a few questionable calls in your favor against a bad team, you should have a parade

*A bad team that wants to build through the draft, has set themselves up to do so and isn’t waiting on some magical free agent or trade to make them stop being an embarrassment

At worst , they’ll have Marshon Brooks , Brook Lopez , and a high draft pick in the upcoming draft if magical free agent guy doesn’t exist. Derp derp …. build through the draft …… derp derp.

So Nets are in a rebuilding mode?

There is a large sum of variables in play. We would technically still be in rebuilding mode in the situation strange brew is talking about. But thats a great rebuilding situation. 7 footer who can score 20, rookie who will be on his way to averaging 20, a high draft pick in one of the best drafts in a long time, and loads of cap space to sign free agents who we can reel in with our shiny new billion dollar arena in New York City. And this is all assuming we lose Deron Williams.

Then you can look at a future with Deron Williams and Dwight Howard. Best case scenario is that the Magic think they can hold on to him and he leaves for Brooklyn. But I think he has made it clear is removed from that organization and they do now want to be left empty handed. I think he will be traded.

Dwight Howard does realize that he does not want his next team to be obliterated for him, a la Carmelo and the Knicks. He might think its best to leave as a free agent despite that 30 million dollar hair cut.

I’ll give you most of your points, but Brook Lopez and Marshon Brooks are not 20 point per game scorers. Not at all. They’re nice pieces, that’s it. And yes I’m just as excited as you for this draft.

Um. What. Brook Lopez averaged 20.4 last year. He is a 20 per game scorer. He will be even better with Deron. We have a black hole at center with Brook. I honestly believe we will be a significantly better team assuming he comes back healthy. And if in the future he is part of this team minus Deron Williams he will be our number one scoring option. So yes, he is a 20 per game score.

Marshon is not there yet, obviously. Sometimes you just watch a kid and you know he is special. You guys would know from Kyrie. Marshon is that type of special. His confidence is just ridiculous for a rookie, but it is not ignorant, or cocky confidence. The kid gets buckets. The top three rookies this year are Kyrie, Rubio, and Brooks in that order. You can look at rookie rankings and see that others agree. He is averaging 15 right now, in two years I do not see why he could not average 20, especially if there is no Deron Williams.

Marshon is going to be a hell of a scorer

Brook Lopez can’t make the all-star team and he plays the weakest position in a weak conference. Nice player, nothing more. Who cares if Brooks could average 20 points a game if Deron Williams left? And who cares if Brook did it when Deron wasn’t there and you had a very poor team? You can’t have those three guys all score 20 points per game. And there is no scenario in the world where those three are your top players and you’re going deep into the East playoffs.

I admire your optimism, but you’ve got quite a bit of wishful thinking in there (stick around here long enough and it is exactly what we do with Tigger Thompson.)

Give Lopes time and I think that he can be an all star. other players have noted this, too. Playing on the New Jersey Nets will not get you the popular vote. I do not understand how you can simply say “who cares.” Brook was in his third season and he was the only guy with any sort of talent on the team. I am confused how you say the reason Brook Lopez is nothing more than a “nice player” is because he has not made the all star team yet. You do not see pure seven footers who can average 20. He is special.

I do not expect that team (Brook, Brooks, Deron) to get us deep into the playoff, but it is a top 6, at worst 7, team in the East.

Then if you want to get talking about Deron and Dwight, then it is over. Players will want to sign with us a la Miami Heat. You would have the two positions to attack the Heat where they are weakest. That team should be a guaranteed trip to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Brook Lopez averaged more points last year after Dwill arrived!!!!! BOOM!!!!!!

I would like to add that marshon brooks is easily a 20 ppg scorer. Easily! A future all star as well. You guys havent seen him play so dont act like you know what your talking about. The kid is special.

Right, Deron Williams, Brook Lopez and Marshon Brooks are going to all average 20 points per game in the same season for many years. Yep, every NBA fan would believe that since that happens every year. I mean, they’re easily the top trio in the league so of course they’ll be the ONLY trio to do it.

They are all capable of doing it.

Hahahaha.

You obviously have not watched the Nets at all.

And I do not blame you. All I am claiming is that Brooks, Lopez, and Williams are all capable of scoring 20 a game. Two have already proved it. The other is the best scorer in this rookie class outside of Kyrie. I am not so sure why that is so hard to see.

I dont think Deron will re-sign if the Nets don’t add anyone else, do you agree?

Oh goodness no. Not a chance he stays unless we add either A) Dwight or B) a combination of lesser stars. And of course it’s possible that he only stays if option A happens. If it doesn’t, then he and Dwight will be in Dallas.

Alright, you aren’t as delusional as some Nets fans are then. Seemed like people were convinced he was staying regardless.

Nah. They might believe it now but soon enough they will come together.

No all fans, atleast on NetsDaily are 100% aware that he will not stay of we dont add dwight or someone else really good

Though I must note that Billy King and Deron have both said this team’s future does not rely on acquiring one other star player.

But this cast of characters will not before enough, I would think

Of course not. If I were him and this team is the same as it is now in May, I’m out of here.

I agree with that, but I think we’re getting dwight. you guys dont think so but just wait and see. when its all said and done, he’ll be with the nets

WHO CARES what they are capable of? They’re not all capable of scoring 20 points per game on the same team and making the Nets a championship contender. If those are your three best players your ceiling is the 7 seed.

I did not say they could make us a championship contender.

I even said I do not think it would take us deep in the playoffs.

I just didn’t think that he would capitulate you guys are rebuilding

You call it crunch time??
Jesus, it was garbage time!!!!!!!!

Irving is going to be very good one day

Im pretty confident in that.

However the talk of Deron vs Kyrie was crazy and looking at the stats tonight shows you why stats don’t tell the whole story.

Either way, enjoyed debating with some of you fine folks today. Until the next time mates.

Must admit to being somewhat disappointed in the FTS people for the reactions tonight to the Nets folk.

Eh, it’s always tough to react when people start coming in and trolling after a game’s pretty much over

It’s called the z-button!

When you can stop people from reacting to comments on the internet, come see me. I got some other things you can sort out. You can start with world peace and hunger.

Also, what does the z button do? Is it just a scroll or does it take you to a specific comment?

Let a few comments go, then hit z a couple times slowly. It takes you to each one in chronological order.

Nice, so I don’t have to randomly scroll up trying to find where the hidden comment was.

Exactly. It’s a great function.

Something that has nothing to do with this game in particular:

I’m really excited to see Kyrie and TT in the Rookies vs Sophomores game during All-Star weekend.

I’d also like to see Marshon Brooks, seems like he could be an awesome scorer

Anyone want to stick it out for the NY-MIA game with me?

Fine, but I’m switching off the big speakers

I probably will.

Bibby is playing, doesn’t look too good for the Knicks

Wolves 81, Spurs 79, 1:45 to play.

NW Division is a beast so far. Wolves check in at 9-10 in last place after their W tonight. The Atlantic, not so much.

I hate losing games like that, but it’ll be better long run

I miss Mark Jackson with this booth.

What should I write about tonight? Topics, anyone?

Well, whatever it is it sure won’t be more of a flop than yesterday’s piece!

Hornets beating the Magic 84-60. And the Boston disaster the other day. Ouch.

You are very lucky to have a player like Kyrie for the future.

He’s a start.

Thanks NetsMets4Life

So that Grizzlies-Clippers game had some gross uniforms last night. ..

miami pulling away miami 84 new york 77

Kind of makes you wonder what they do with Carmelo Anthony.

The Knicks roster is a mess, if Baron comes back and does something they could be a playoff team, but with a payroll like they have they might want to consider blowing it up

They can’t blow it up. They just went through years of crap for it.

Dont know how people figure Baron Davis will come in and make a big difference. It is not 2007. Unfortunately for them, they were so desperate to remove themselves from the Isiah era that they filled up the roster with a core of lesser superstars and then washed up stars.

The Knicks gave up too much in the Melo trade. And Baron will hardly do much. They just need the guys they have to play better.

This is why over at NetsDaily we pray that the Magic are content with the roster they have (they are currently losing to the Hornets). Some reports over the past week suggest they are happy and may call Dwight’s bluff and hold on to him. If he wants to leave, he has to take a $30 million hair cut. But it looks like he would take that cut. He just seems so removed from the Orlando organization.

He does seem so removed. It’s the same situation as Denver last year. It’s too bad you still don’t have Ryan Anderson though. He’s been awesome this year.

Rod Thorn just completely screwed us over in his last season or two with the Nets. VC/Anderson trade for a load of garbage might have been his worst trade ever.

That’s an expensive haircut for someone who doesn’t have much hair in the first place.

From reading around a lot, it just looks like he has absolutely no interest in staying in Orlando. It does not seem out of the realm of possibility that he would take a pay cut to go to his next team instead of going to that team without the pieces it would take to get him in a trade.

Cavs are a great fit for him in free agency (though no one’s talking about it)

That would be because he does not want to go to the Cavs. Ric Bucher is one guy in particular who has been very adamant about Dwight’s list being Nets, Mavs, Lakers in that order. Bucher also told Bulls fans to stop coming up with Dwight trade proposals. The Bulls are simply not on his list.

He recently added the Celtics to his list as well. I don’t really understand what Dwight’s motivation is with his trying to get out of Orlando, if he wants to be the man, he already is. If he wants to win, the Bulls are probably going to the finals without him. It’s confusing.

Celtics thing is interesting. I am not sure why he would want to be on that team other than Rondo. I think that whole story was just further proof that he wants out.

I think he wants both (to be the man and win). I believe he thinks he can do both in Brooklyn. He can’t be the man in LA. His relationship has soured with Orlando. There are a number of factors for why Chicago doesn’t work. Wojnarowski had a story about how Adidas cant have their two stars play in the same market. Maybe he does not feel Rose is a good fit for him (not exactly a pure point guard). Whatever the case, the Bulls do not work.

The C’s are broken after this year to me. Unless you can legitimately lure players like LBJ, Wade and Bosh at the same time you simply can’t win with a roster full of exception and veteran minimum guys. And the Knicks are living proof of that (I know Anthony was a trade). Boston isn’t title contenders for a long time unless Howard and someone else goes there this summer.

He played very well last year, both in LA and in Cleveland (a surprise to many).

I Love Baron and I think he is a top 3 PG when he is in shape and motivated, it’s just the team seems like a mess and he’s coming off a tough injury

He’s not at all top ten point guard regardless of shape anymore to be honest.

playoff Warriors Baron was unbelieveable, also remember when he toasted the Cavs while on the Hornets. I’ll always be a big BD fan. Don’t come to me for too much objectivity

I assumed you were referring to his 2011-2012 state. So, that is what my comment was all about.

We’ll see, he could come back fantastic. Also his main positive attributes are passing, shooting, size & defense, those stay pretty well (as long as motivated and healthy)

Yea, I’m just going to stop. You can’t be objective about Baron Davis the same way I can’t be about Ray Allen. We all have a soft spot..

Jesus Shuttlesworth

Own 11 different Ray jerseys.

I kinda have a soft spot for Ray myself. Cant hate on him at all.

Yeah but one of the biggest problems with the team is that D’Antoni doesn’t have a point guard to run his offense.

Top 3 in what year? 2007?

It’s not a great example because he has hardly ever been healthy and motivated

but blowing it up means trading melo.the rest of that roster is untradable.

And they got smoked by rebuilding-mode Cavs. They have some very talented players, but they don’t mesh well and aren’t at the ages/point in careers/skill sets/salaries don’t make sense.

I can’t remember a season where I felt more assured of a CF matchup than I do this year with Miami-Chicago.

Cav Celtics

That was a CSF, not a CF.

I was thinking that in 2008-2009

I don’t know how you could have, Boston didn’t have Garnett…

wait what?

Kevin Garnett missed a ton of that season and didn’t play at all in the playoffs. How could you have thought it was a lock for them to meet Cleveland in the 2009 ECF’s?

before the season

Nasty move from LeBron.

Drew Gooden, who I have nothing good to say about, had a huge performance in Bogut’s absence tonight.

That will happen when Carlos Boozer guards you

I like his Ducktail hairstyle

Please don’t tell me you are too sore of a loser to write a game recap

To NOT write a game recap

Of course he’s writing one. Advice: leave.

Recap is up, it was a Friday night and I’m in college. I had other things to do.

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